IDK??? Did not see this one coming! Henriette was more than happy to become second only to Marie-Therese. He takes her hand and closes his eyes and for a moment he is vulnerable. Apparently de Clermont gave Marchal the names of the conspirators against the king, and all the names of those who shared her allegiance. Only honestly acknowledging that Philippes glorious death in battlesomething that would not displease Philippe, himselfwouldnt necessarily break her heart. So Louis settles into sleep. I very much enjoyed reading them and especially liked your additional facts about the historical events and figures. on The finale. What to expect from the future? Finally, a scene with the Chevalier!!! I will try, but I trust you wont publish it if you find it too long. You sound worse than Montespan and de Clermont sparring over the card-tables! This doesnt do good for her position, unloved by her husband and no one would stand at her side, should French and English go to war. His grip tightens on the poker, even as Montcourt looks actually shocked at that accusation. But lets compare: Henriette is jealous. Nice one, Montcourt. First of all, ladies, stop spewing vitriol. Philippes distress is written all over his face, while Louis just looks angry, eyes flinty, mouth flat, jaw clenched. Ive mentioned before that his intimate interactions with women in the show are used as a form of punishment towards those who have hurt him Louis (with Louise and Henriette) and the Chevalier (with the maid). Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. The Dauphin hides stealthy behind a tree, looking for Rohan. And Louis is left in the salon, framed by the door, the guards, and looking incredibly vulnerable and alone. Previously, we see Masson offer the same bottle offered to Louis when the king is sick (and Masson reels off a list of ingredients), and the bottle being secretively replaced, so Masson definitely did not know it was poisoned. What? However, lets assume they are both equally dire sins. But in context, with everything else going on in the show and with what Philippe deals with, I can understand why he did it. In reality it only took a very short time for the plan to take full effect. Point 4: This point actually supports my own. Do you even think hed allow her to end things? Then, as they both walk through the salon (Vaux de Vicomte again) and to the doors, the guards bar their way and Louis enters. Youre brought up, its your duty. In perfect sync. . What a total prick ). Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. Aaaaaand there we have the end of the episode and the end of Season One. NOT I dont want you to die, (that comes later) she says my problems cannot be solved, you know that. Way to avoid his question. Just another way Louis is emasculating him, making him a laughing stock in French society. Your question misses the question, Montcourt replies cryptically. Why is this so? Arguably, as a man, it was within Philippes power to end his relationship easily enough whereas Henriette, a woman, would very possibly not have had that same power. then goes into the bedchamber. [4] Claudine and Philippe converse, with Claudine saying she feels they are not through the worst. But enough with this. Except, when hes really angry and he rapes her. All I could find were negative. Thank you so much for your in depth response to my question. Louis is a shit to Philippe. You see it in Ep3 where he yells where is MY wife? You see it in Ep2 with his angry speech to Louis: do you tell yourself that when you are fucking MY WIFE? In so many subtle ways Philippe is being demeaned by Louis. Something must be done! Louis demands and now NOW he is looking scared, helpless and not at all like the King. Eww. I love these seemingly random yet distinct choices made by directors and production designers. LOUIS. You have never been a man whos true. We are NOT touching her! Philippe finally says. The Mysterious Death of Henriette, Duchesse dOrlans, Toad Testicles, Foul-Beard and Broad-Arse. And just like that, the light dims in his eyes, his face twists and his zealotry is gone. We learn that she has loved Louis since they were children. I think it would be naive of us to assume that was the first (or only) time that happened. Louis. Louis and Philippe approach the bed, to the dying Henriette who looks really bad. Point 5: Ah, Henriettes remark about Philippes glorious death in battle. The camera pans up and it is a truly magnificent sight, flowers everywhere. Another suggestion is that she had porphyria, although she displayed none of its symptoms. And even after watching both seasons 1 and 2 of Versailles, I wouldnt say that he loved her a lot but on the show it was to a certain degree. In between re-watching S1, of course. Plus he told Louis he didnt recognise the sender of the notes which is technically true. But here, now? Henriette, Duchesse dOrlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. God knows the wolves might have taken us but what did we know? Oh, and was it common in this era to talk about new marriages literally 2 minutes after your wife/husband died? ), (*WTF. Rumourwent that he sent the poison to Effiat in retaliation for Henriette having him banished. She is used by the king to hurt his brother. Excellent. As she said, she was only voicing what they were both thinking. He certainly is darker, more angry and violent than he was in real life. We see this SO MANY TIMES it becomes frustrating and sad. YAAAAAY! I know this coming years later, but to Theresa THANK YOU SO MUCH. He was distraught when she died, and was fully intent on punishing those responsible (as poison was indeed thought to have killed her). This moment echoes the first from the opening scene in Episode One, where the traitors rush in on the pretext of getting Louis safely away. It happened so fast, but did Fabien Marshal shoot Charlotte Parthanay, and if so, why? And, more importantly, Henriette NEVER RAPED Philippe. Stars: George Blagden, Alexander Vlahos, Tygh Runyan Director(s . And also shout out to Hannah for being a a much needed third voice. She finally asks. As her husband, Philippe, rushed to her bedside, Henriette chided him, Alas, Monsieur, it is a long time since you loved me, but this is unjust. Alerted, Henriettes lady-in-waiting watched the duke closely, but he showed no indication of guilt and every sign that he was distressed by his wifes condition. Also, his relationship with his brother was much less complicated than we see in this show, Philippe was a very simple person when it came to feelings, he was affectionate and friendly. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. No, of course she doesnt. My biggest problem with Henriette/Louis is that I find it highly doubtful that Louis would have sex with her. So he tells Louis he will now deliver the man responsible for their deaths. Henriette is just one more thing Louis takes from Philippe. My apartment has no pisspot and I do hate to urinate in the stairwells. The Chevalier: Never stopped you before. (teeheehee) They are interrupted by the Duc de Cassel (who is looking even rougher and more filthy than usual. But I said lets make it our fort. For once in your life you played along. I hope the surgery went well, Heather! I think this comes down to loyalty one would assume the Kings guard would be fiercely loyal to the crown so no one would suspect any plotting. It would be an outrageous thought. Louis was deathly afraid of the more relaxed, popular and fun-loving Monsieur, who gave great parties, was social and everyone wanted to be around. Nup. *Deeeeeep breath* Okay. Louvois and Marchal agree. That was your promise to me. I look forward to reading your reviews on the next series, when it comes out. Louis XIV was born on 5 September 1638 in the Chteau de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, to Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. plus its almost as if he has something to say, to hide. He gets up and leaves, walking through the corridors with a candelabra. You really point out a lot of details one might miss when watching the episodes for the first time. Cultural factors, too, played a part. Do you honestly think that just because certain abusesatrocities, evenwere acceptable, that those on the receiving end didnt feel anger, pain, violation, etc. In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. I will speak to whomever I like. Louvois: I know this is true. PERFECT. The writers do it over and over again, in tiny little ways that is infuriating (Philippe with his sad puppy eyes Nooooo!) In every possible way. .. now, I am not saying that Colbert is implying Philippe poisoned his wife, but it sure sounds like it. Im glad you like my reviews And I will most definitely continue on with reviewing S2. Ridicule. No one leaves. Philippe is jealous. She is a woman, she is his subject. Saint-Simon asserted that Louis was so thankful that his brother was innocent of the crime that he decided not to prosecute the perpetrators. What about the angels? he asks, after Montcourt nervously says hes been praying for Henriette. Rohan grabs her by the throat, saying it is not yet clear to him what she has done to earn her money, then demands she clean his room before leaving. Henriette says a glorious death in battle would not displease him. The Henriette thing is just one more on the heaping pile of shit. Check Ovation for times and how you can watch Ovation in your area. It is Louis, and not Henriette, whom I see as the one who does the greatest harm to Philippe. We found an old building a sorry shack made of stone and moss. And then down by the promontory. when Philippe asks if he were to die, her troubles would be solved. She is simply besotted with Louis, so in love, that shed do anything he told her to. At least thats always been his excuse. (aaaand check out the looks on Louis and Bontemps faces as I randomly paused right here. He took the bottle to drown his sorrows as it were, after he hit Claudine, feeling remorse, I would think. Another scene now, with Rohan getting ready for his ride, and a servant girl by the name of Marie entering, demanding her money. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. Thank you! Why is his passion for the man he loves to be forgiven and Henriettes passion for the man she loves to be used against her? Another grabs him, covers his mouth, and more appear to shoot a guard. I have one comment / correction on what you wrote on Henriettes death scene. Aaaaaand now. This is clearly frustrating for Bontemps, this is against all protocol, and Bontemps is nothing if a creature who takes comfort (and even enjoys) the routine of protocol. Marchal is still ordering: Get his Majesty to safety, at once! His guards rush in to remove him, they scuffle and Louis yells: get your hands off me! They grew up knowing what their duty was as prince and princess. Trusting Philippe and involving him in the running of France would make him a better, stronger king. Incest or homosexuality? We stake our claim or we are ploughed into the field. But Montespan kind of brushes it off with, Yes, I would do the same. She is hurt, nonetheless. Heres a thought: what is your view to Claudine? Marchal is surprised but pleased: attracting the flies to the paper. You are both the angels at my shoulder, says Louis, which reminds Marchal of the Parthenays and Montcourt. Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. Check back soon for my overview and wrap up of the entire season. Mike did. Claudine doesnt know how long Henriette has left, but it is her wish to see you both. Also, Henriette has asked to be carried to the garden so that she might be surrounded by her favourite flowers. (Philippes gentle smile is so bittersweet here!) Henriettes liver and intestines were found to be badly corrupted, while her duodenum, gall bladder and the lower portion of her abdomen were filled with evil-smelling bile. Then he calls for the Guards. And who can blame her? John Clare 191 subscribers Henrietta of England, Duchess of Orlans rushes to Louis XIV's chambers after being poisoned. They are singing. Minor detail maybe, but not sure if that doesnt change the meaning of the next bit somewhat? Philippe adds: .or two, perhaps. And he strides off. Thanks for reading! Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. Henriette drew the worst cards of all four players in those stakes. She seems like she has genuinely been brought in as a main character simply to drive the wedge deeper between Louis and Philippe, but not contribute anything herself to most of her scenes! Although Lord Montagu accepted this, he had misgivings. She could have answered with an honest yes but she evades the question. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. I dont know how others look at Henriettas character, but to me, shes just trying to survive and continue loving the man she loves, which is Louis. This is Louis in control, in power, and he delivers a malevolent, threatening banter that is fabulous to see. The episode starts in Madame de Montespans bed, with Louis awake and staring at the ceiling. Again, so so love your words. Ugh) and oh dear, the Chevalier looks so panicked, so worried by the Ducs appearance is it because he thinks people will start accusing him again of treason? We see his offer to help refused time and time again. (Historical note: this happened and wasnt at all odd) The door suddenly opens, the Queenis standing there. Montcourt is confused. Absolutely enjoyed your recap of the finale. ), I think your recaps are wonderful and I enjoy reading them every bit as much as I do watching the programme! I just rot an extremely long omment Her breath falters: Im scared. And the look on Louis and Philippes faces as they both lean in to comfort her *sobs* Philippe says gently: There is nothing to fear. Henriette: How do you know? Philippe: do you remember before you were born? The final review of the finaleof Versailles. Bontemps wants to move her she cannot stay in the Kings bed. but Claudine says she cannot be moved. , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? Pity that they made his character too emo, too frustrated and angry with the world, when he actually was full of joie de vivre, always smiling, always chattering, always ready to find the good in every person and every sistuation. you wanted to make it your castle. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. There is your music.. Similarly, perforation of the gall bladder may have led to an excess of bile leaking into the peritoneum causing the corruption and gangrene reported by her doctors. Louis drops the poker, approaches Montcourt. Though it was true that he was saddened by Henriettes death, I dont felt that he was actually that hell bent on punishing those who were or at least believed to be responsible for her death, due to the lack of evidence among other factors. Louis is calm but angry: then you set yourself against me. Philippe pauses, looks incredibly sad for a moment, then briefly nods. he is troubled, hearing Montcourts whispers in his head: When we are the kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend. and so on. Point 3: Good question, which is the greater sin? Louis just nods, gives Philippe a look (who is standing near the doors, looking so alone and sad, I just wanna hug him!) Yet even on her deathbed, she reaches for Louiss hand first. A brief scene follows, showing Rohan and the Dauphin sword playing and pretending a jolly game of war in the forest, thenwe are back to the Kings bedchamber where Henriette sleeps and Philippe is outside in the antechamber, brooding by the fireplace as Louis walks in. Philippe weeps. I am a friend. Then he says I pay you to spy on others, not on me. . Now that *would* be naive. The wedge is firmly being driven between Philippe and Louis, all their arguments and conflict and opposition for each other has been carefully constructed and built up over the last nine episodes, into this final one. For the record, I dont think Henriette would actually like to see Philippe die, but she would like to be shot of him. Henrietta was born on 16 June 1644, on the eve of the Second Battle of Newbury during the Civil War, at Bedford House in Exeter, a seat of William Russell, 5th Earl of Bedford, who had recently returned to the Royalist side. No. Dieu. So how could you be scared? Louis asks Henriette to spy on her husband and she does not refuse. Im actually in the States where episode seven will be airing tomorrow night, but I read ahead because I know history so nothing coming was really a spoiler (just a condensed timeline). Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. According to the Savoyard ambassador, the king vowed that, if Henriette had indeed been poisoned, those involved would be tortured to death, including the chevalier de Lorraine, Philippes favourite, if he were implicated. Henriette of England is poisoned during her trip back from England. And to Ainee for perspective. Louis stares out the window in the antechamber, servants bring in food, but Marchal suspects poisoning and sends it back until its safety can be confirmed. Hi Jules, I must thank you for your detailed writeup of all ten episodes of Versailles. Today you get the chance to kill a king! While hes saying this, Marchal behind them is taking out a knife, and suddenly he slides it across the floor, and Louis picks it up, and Montcourt lunges another candlestick is involved.. OMG And then Louis grabs Montcourt from behind and sinks the knife into him! They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. Montcourt to Marchal: You are a fool. Louis replies: And you are a MURDERER! Montcourt continues with the wrong man thing, but Louis will have none of it. Your loyalty can lie with Philippe while still acknowledging that Henriette is also a victim and not the villain (the real villain here is Louis). FOCUS. First off, let me preface my response with the qualifier that I know very little about the historical figures on which these characters are based. As for Philippe, I cant make out what he is. Glad to see he lives on, at least for awhile. The Kings son. Having spent the first episode ripping their kit off at any opportunity, the court of Versailles has taken an oath of chastity. Point 6: Not her greatest moment, no. But Sophie declares she has no life: what her mother told her was a lie. Yes, absolutely. Wow. Also thanks for your detailed and in depth reviews. She is not indulgent in it. Pretty sure he was not the one who did the poisoning thing. Ill tell you, though, that, like you, I totally adore Philippe in this series, the actor is great and some King/brother interaction is well done. Now she is in a marriage that will never give her any joy with a man she does not love and she should risk displeasing her lover, the king, by rejecting him? His belief was shared by Elizabeth-Charlotte, Philippes second wife, who named the culprits as Lorraine and the Marquis dEffiat, an equerry, who had acted without Philippes knowledge. Is he for or against le roi? She was merely being used by the man she was in love with. And were never coming back. The Chevalier makes the sign of the Cross (like the good Catholic he is), sweeps a look across the room to Cassel? Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. The writers want us to think that evrry time they had kids, he had to rape her? Colbert: You believe her highness is poisoned? Marchal replies cryptically: I believe. No doubt those in Philippes camp played on that too, to taint Henriette even more (Guiche UGH. A begrudging father/daughter mentor role, and she eventually warms him up a bit? I certainly cant say for certain what the writers intent was with that scene, but in this writers opinion it is multilayered a) to show Philippes slow growing resentment towards his brother: he says I want a boy, just like my brother. Princess Henriette was born on 16 June 1644, on the eve of the Second Battle of Newbury during the Civil War, at Bedford House in Exeter, a seat of William Russell, 5th Earl of Bedford (1613-1700), who had recently returned to the Royalist side. But Louis, he just wanted her close, and so married her to his brother. She coudnt have said no if shed wanted to. My heart breaks for him. Hold onto this moment, I told you. Hi, I have some questions. Societal expectations do not alter basic human reality. Such was the hygiene of 17th century France. Hi, Once again, Louis behaviour, as reported here, is uncharacteristic. But I still dont get why he doesnt just dob them both in.? What a pain! Philippe raping his wife. In summary, of the four people involved in this sad businessLouis, Philippe, the Chevalier and HenrietteHenriette is the most powerless, the one with the least choice in anything. *Disclaimer* I do not own any of the audio or footage included in this. The Queen rushes to her side as she collapses and Louis commands Bontemps to fetch his doctor. But his family and France are divided. Like only a brother can. Philippelooks into the fire, whispers, I was so proud of you. Bontemps: For you, Sire. Shine on Bontemps, you unsubtle diamond, you. Thatd do it. And there is also Dangerous Liaisons, but that is set in the 18th century. and especially when he proved himself in battle and all of Paris cheered him and adored him. The Chevalier is still silent, still focused on Henriette. Both felt neglected by the other. You! He points and accusing finger. You can ask to reproduce it, though - just contact me. You mentioned the Charles Beaubrun painting of Louis & Philippewell I was noticing how this stunning piece travels around the palace in season one. Such emotion. And laudanum as a sedative was much used at the time. Coming from the quills of noted showrunners David Wolstencroft and Simon Mirren, both known for gripping series with a conspiratorial bent (i.e. For her lot to improve, she could only hope for things to happen. We could never invade the entire world but the world can imagine us as their centre. thank you.. My thoughts on that notorious Henrietta/Philippe scene in episode one is that it is entirely out-of-character for Philippe as we get to know him through the rest of the series. The first one we ever played in, says Philippe. How accurate is Netflix Versailles? The only protection offered is by Louis. for all of these. In one of the episodes did we see Clermont messing with the doctors box of bottles. Anne, Hi Jules haha that last message should have ended (I agree with you on all POINTS) not pints . This is who they truly are in this one moment of grief. I came across your reviews and I read each one after viewing an episode. And the next shot is Louis in slow-mo, walking out. Whats wrong? And then Marchal throws Montcourts words back at him: and when we are the Kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend, right? Yessss. What a great mix of observation and humor. I COMMAND YOU! and the guards step back. Louis decides to go to Paris to bless the sick. The three remaining lived to be 59, 49 and 68. And our enemies have stopped at nothing to destroy it. Panoramica: After crushing the Protestants and thwarted Leto, Louis feels invincible. The sad irony here is, I do think Louis cares very much for Philippe but he cannot let his armour of paranoia down enough to recognise Philippes loyalty and the fact that he can trust his brother. ? Brilliant. As to fiction I found the ones I did read ended up thrown against the wall. Bontemps moves her along. Her cheeriness disguised the fact that she was unwell. However there is a new addition, a large portrait of Louis now hanging on wall near the door (replacing a previous smaller ND painting of flowers). So many questions.. let me see: did Fabien Marshal shoot Charlotte Parthanay, and if so, why? The fact that she could feel anything at all for him (beyond disgust) by the end surprises me. That she could feel no affection for the man she was forced to marry, a man who could never feel anything for her and who also raped her, is not at all surprising (even while considering that marital rape was acceptable at that time). The opening episode of Versailles season two featured fortune tellers and laser beams. I am tired of waiting for you to keep it, says the Queen casually as she gets into bed with Louis then settles down. A letter from the King of Sweden has arrived, telling Louis he has agreed to break his alliance with the Dutch and support the French. Who seeks to harm Henriette? Marchal: The King once told me, he warned me quite clearly that his enemies would seek to destroy those closest to him. He was shut out of his mothers (Anne of Austria) last moments, while Philippe was in attendance, where, despite her appalling treatment of her second son, he openly wept and grieved. Philippe is most definitely not the victim in his marriage. Perfectly written line is delivered perfectly by perfect actor. Charming. Is he justified in his behaviour towards her? Last scene, with Louis silent and stoic, standing on a stone that overlooks a glorious view of the forest with Versailles in the distance. And if you reread my words very carefully, you might realise that I never once touched on the legality of it. They talk about whats happening Marchal is questioning people, and Sophie was taken in that morning. Im guessing they were pretty equal. Im leaving. Louis: You would defy me, even in this moment? Philippe: I know what this moment is. Louis steps to his brother and the camera frames them between the crossed pikes, a familiar movie making technique that focuses your eye solely on them, and also creates powerful imagery of two strong men, between weapons, taking opposite views. Louis turns in slow-mo, the expression on his face revealing nothing. Yes. Point 8: Again, refer to comments on Henriettes lack of power as a woman and as a subject of the king to say no to said king. And in the context of the show, I did find it a nice touch, the apology to him. Philippe and Henriette are quite possibly the two people Louis loves most, and yet he uses and hurts them both repeatedly to get what he wants and because he is paranoid about his brother. NOOOOOOO. Marchal replies in that cool way of his: we eliminate the suspects. Colbert: eliminating the suspects doesnt mean the same to me as it does to you! Lol. It is only since the end of the 20th centuary up to present day that wives can now shout rape, I know of a woman in the 60s that had a baby and had to be stitched, her husband cut her stitches out and raped her. Philippe is no more vulnerable to the hurt and damage done to him than she is to the hurt and damage done to her, simply because he is a man with rights and she is a woman with no rights. Thank you (and I agree with you on all pints!!! Fashion. I especially like the pairing of her and Marchal. Montespan banters but Louis doesnt bite. I neglected to include the phrase in my opinion. Later on, we see the portrait back in Louiss chamber Here it is, mes amis! Let me know when the doctor arrives, Louis says, and leaves. And Louvois being the pompous ass he is, says haughtily: Before you speak to me, I suggest you speak to the king. Marchal: I am his Majestys eyes and ears, Msieur Louvois. Henriette 12 episodes, 2015-2017 Anatole Taubman . Director Daniel Roby Writers Simon Mirren David Wolstencroft Stars George Blagden Alexander Vlahos Tygh Runyan See production, box office & company info Henriette portrayed by Pierre Mignard, 17th century, Henriette, Duchesse d'Orlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. That Henriette was such an effective way of hurting Philippe is down to Philippes viewing her as his property, not because he felt any true affection for her (at least, not until closer towards the end, when I do believe he really does care). The two are not mutally exclusive. It is always Louis for her. She is only ever Louis sweet, nubile mistress or Philippes overlooked wife, never her own person, she isnt seductive and outgoing like Montespan or scheming like de Clermont or genuinely sweet with a backbone like Sophie, shes just a soft-spoken waif who huffs when she doesnt get her way, cries when shes put in a difficult position, doesnt seem that clever but knows exactly where to strike thatll heart the worst mentioning Francoise Parthenay when Louis has refused to talk about the Chevalier, for one. she was the one who found it, actually. Much later, the courtier Saint-Simon offered his own thoughts. Beating your wife was also quite legal, acceptable and, indeed, expected. Yet how much pain are you willing to endure before you get what you want? BRILLIANT acting. It is not clear in the show. I think we see fairly good evidence in episode 7 that not only does Philippe support his brother, but that he is honestly frightened of the idea of running the country and has no desire to take his brothers place (his anger at being overlooked for the regency is more due to his hurt that no one supports him or takes him seriouslyhis experience all his life). But she is human and she can feel jealousy and make inappropriate remarks at inappropriate moments.
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